Quick chains
Moderator: Monochrome
- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Quick chains
After having to fall back on some good old Norwegian experience on snow and icy steep driveways yesterday, I have decided I need some quick chains for the CTS. I was considering getting actual winter tires, but frankly.. we MAY get snow one day per year in Richmond and even up in the mountains by the cabin it is limited. And even there it is really just the final driveway I will need it (1/4 mile or so - steep and curvy with a significant drop-off on the side). I have actually never used chains other than on tractors (always had studded winter tires in Norway) so am looking for some input on it..
Was reading and these won the comparison test on thedrive.com:
https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chain-C ... now-pcr-20
Thoughts?
Was reading and these won the comparison test on thedrive.com:
https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chain-C ... now-pcr-20
Thoughts?
Re: Quick chains
Been a long while since I’ve touched chains. Hate it and they tear everything up including your car. Get a studded set of tires or a good 4wd.

- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
[quote=""ChargerX3""]Been a long while since Ive touched chains. Hate it and they tear everything up including your car. Get a studded set of tires or a good 4wd.[/quote]
I am not buying studded tires for driving 1/4 mile one day per winter. That would be silly and a gigantic waste of money.
I am not buying studded tires for driving 1/4 mile one day per winter. That would be silly and a gigantic waste of money.
Re: Quick chains
a 1/4 mile?
[quote=""ChargerX3""] or a good 4wd.[/quote]
:d ontknow:
[quote=""ChargerX3""] or a good 4wd.[/quote]
:d ontknow:

Whenever you use forceful and overt verbal persuasion to try to convince others to see things your way, they're probably not listening to what you say, Instead they're looking for every error in you your logic and mistakes in your facts, all the while constructing counterarguments. Worse still, they don't merely believe you're wrong; they need you to be wrong in order to protect the status quo. And since the final judge exists in their own head, you lose every time. - The Influencer
Is the level of bullshit you have to go through to change things in a direction you want, less than than or equal than the level of current bullshit?
- aaronatstate
- Posts: 9844
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:52 pm
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Quick chains
[quote=""alienviking""]After having to fall back on some good old Norwegian experience on snow and icy steep driveways yesterday, I have decided I need some quick chains for the CTS. I was considering getting actual winter tires, but frankly.. we MAY get snow one day per year in Richmond and even up in the mountains by the cabin it is limited. And even there it is really just the final driveway I will need it (1/4 mile or so - steep and curvy with a significant drop-off on the side). I have actually never used chains other than on tractors (always had studded winter tires in Norway) so am looking for some input on it..
Was reading and these won the comparison test on thedrive.com:
https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chain-C ... now-pcr-20
Thoughts?[/quote]
Steep and curvy driveway with a drop off, sounds like Coop is best suited to answer your questions. Minimum 35" tires with lockers at both axles and a low range transfer case.
In reality, I don't know the first thing about snow chains
Was reading and these won the comparison test on thedrive.com:
https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chain-C ... now-pcr-20
Thoughts?[/quote]
Steep and curvy driveway with a drop off, sounds like Coop is best suited to answer your questions. Minimum 35" tires with lockers at both axles and a low range transfer case.
In reality, I don't know the first thing about snow chains

Chr15t0ph3r85: YES
Chr15t0ph3r85: GOOO STATE
Re: Quick chains
Sweet. This is my jam!!!
A dude that can run 10mile at the drop of a hat is worried about going 1/4th a mile if it snows! Love it!
Get a set of chains used, they don’t wear out. They only suck putting on once you already are stuck. I don’t like the roller ones but a couple guys at work use them on their fwd cars and like them. But used should be around 50 bucks and the piece of mind is easily worth 50 bucks.
Coop
A dude that can run 10mile at the drop of a hat is worried about going 1/4th a mile if it snows! Love it!
Get a set of chains used, they don’t wear out. They only suck putting on once you already are stuck. I don’t like the roller ones but a couple guys at work use them on their fwd cars and like them. But used should be around 50 bucks and the piece of mind is easily worth 50 bucks.
Coop
[quote=""Melis""]The cop asked Coop "Are you really a firefighter?" Coop was like "yeah" then the cop said "ok your in charge" then the cop left
[/quote]
DCIV: first to 2,000,000 rep points
[/quote]
DCIV: first to 2,000,000 rep points
- Duck Vader
- Posts: 18723
- Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:57 am
Re: Quick chains
I've only used chains off road in the winter on off road trails on the wrangler. I carry a set of 4 chains fir the xj and 2 each for the truck and kia. Have yet to use on any of them.
That said, since they are going on the cts I'd think those would be fine for short drives. I have full on chains for the bigger ones but something similar to those for the kia.
One thing to think about is the fact that you would only possibly use them a couple times a year if that. So cable chains like you posted should be fine.
Also, what does your owners manual say? Some vehicles say not to use chains.
I've bought all my chains from etrailer.com
That said, since they are going on the cts I'd think those would be fine for short drives. I have full on chains for the bigger ones but something similar to those for the kia.
One thing to think about is the fact that you would only possibly use them a couple times a year if that. So cable chains like you posted should be fine.
Also, what does your owners manual say? Some vehicles say not to use chains.
I've bought all my chains from etrailer.com
- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
[quote=""vegasidol""]a 1/4 mile?
[/quote]
GPS says 0.6 miles. My sense of estimating distance sucks haha. Good to know though since I plan on using that hill for running hill repeats.
New 4WD is out for now - Bronco is delayed
Also, this would be more for emergencies than anything. If I am stuck not getting out one day in general I wouldn't care. But since it has been confirmed that fire trucks can't get there (we had to have a review done by them before we closed.. one of many hurdles..) and I am a bit iffy on if an ambulance can, I would like it as an extra backup for that one time I MIGHT need it.
[/quote]
GPS says 0.6 miles. My sense of estimating distance sucks haha. Good to know though since I plan on using that hill for running hill repeats.
New 4WD is out for now - Bronco is delayed
Also, this would be more for emergencies than anything. If I am stuck not getting out one day in general I wouldn't care. But since it has been confirmed that fire trucks can't get there (we had to have a review done by them before we closed.. one of many hurdles..) and I am a bit iffy on if an ambulance can, I would like it as an extra backup for that one time I MIGHT need it.
- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
Now that I look at it.. that might even be underestimated (and the map is also wrong). It takes close to 4 minutes to drive down it in the summer. So whatever distance that ends up being haha.
Re: Quick chains
2 snow tires on extra set of used wheels isn't that bad. Then just leave them on all season.
Used to do that with the Stealth when i lived up by Yellowstone for school. Studded tires are legit.
Or just get a proper awd car that can handle the task at hand.
Used to do that with the Stealth when i lived up by Yellowstone for school. Studded tires are legit.
Or just get a proper awd car that can handle the task at hand.

- aaronatstate
- Posts: 9844
- Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:52 pm
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Quick chains
Time to trade in that CTS wagon for an RS6 Avant! 

Chr15t0ph3r85: YES
Chr15t0ph3r85: GOOO STATE
Re: Quick chains
[quote=""aaronatstate""]Time to trade in that CTS wagon for a Forester
[/quote]
Fixed
Fixed

- tabasco122
- Posts: 18081
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:57 pm
- Location: Houma, LA
- Contact:
Re: Quick chains
Those are you best bet for your vehicle. Most vehicles that say dont use chains are talking about actual chains, not these guys. They get good reviews and seem to last decently as long as you arent going on the interstate with them or something. I was going to get a set for the sti, but we will probably just get winter tires at some point.
scat1zzi
12:12 am: if the phone charger is a penis, and the chargy bit inside the phone is the vagina, i made my phones vagina prolapse on itself and cause catastrophic failure
[quote=""Seraflame""]Fear has nothing to do with it. It's a simple equation.
Is the shen I'm about to pull and the laughs that ensue = to or > the payback my wife is likely to impose? If yes. Shens. If no. Shens.[/quote]
12:12 am: if the phone charger is a penis, and the chargy bit inside the phone is the vagina, i made my phones vagina prolapse on itself and cause catastrophic failure
[quote=""Seraflame""]Fear has nothing to do with it. It's a simple equation.
Is the shen I'm about to pull and the laughs that ensue = to or > the payback my wife is likely to impose? If yes. Shens. If no. Shens.[/quote]
Click to show spoiler
- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
There will be a new car coming in the future - but since I have driven basically nothing this year and probably wont drive much most of next year I'm enjoying car loan free time with the CTS hah. Plus there MAY be some future plans that will require a vehicle that can tow so holding off until those things work themselves out as well. Either way, it wont be a Forester
Thanks Ryan - It really sounds like the easiest and cheapest way to get some extra added insurance for the extremely tiny chance that I have a need for them.
Thanks Ryan - It really sounds like the easiest and cheapest way to get some extra added insurance for the extremely tiny chance that I have a need for them.
- tabasco122
- Posts: 18081
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:57 pm
- Location: Houma, LA
- Contact:
Re: Quick chains
Disclaimer, i dont have any personal experience with them, just looked like the best option based on my previous research for cars without a lot of room in the wheel wells.
scat1zzi
12:12 am: if the phone charger is a penis, and the chargy bit inside the phone is the vagina, i made my phones vagina prolapse on itself and cause catastrophic failure
[quote=""Seraflame""]Fear has nothing to do with it. It's a simple equation.
Is the shen I'm about to pull and the laughs that ensue = to or > the payback my wife is likely to impose? If yes. Shens. If no. Shens.[/quote]
12:12 am: if the phone charger is a penis, and the chargy bit inside the phone is the vagina, i made my phones vagina prolapse on itself and cause catastrophic failure
[quote=""Seraflame""]Fear has nothing to do with it. It's a simple equation.
Is the shen I'm about to pull and the laughs that ensue = to or > the payback my wife is likely to impose? If yes. Shens. If no. Shens.[/quote]
Click to show spoiler
- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
Hah no worries - it makes sense to me as well. If I was driving into an area with heavy snowfall all the time I'd definitely go for winter tires but like I said - this is just an emergency backup.
Re: Quick chains
Update...
Viking does 80mph on interstate with chains. Wheel Wells are a gaping mess.
Viking does 80mph on interstate with chains. Wheel Wells are a gaping mess.

- alienviking
- Posts: 10692
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:41 pm
Re: Quick chains
I would have to GET to an interstate first.. that is 30 minutes away!
- Chris GTO TT
- Posts: 15869
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:50 pm
- Location: Sacramento
Re: Quick chains
Sounds like you need a Baja!
