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Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:55 am
by Jeff V.
Ok. Let's argue about who has the crappier Montero :lol:

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:34 am
by ChargerX3
I would win. ;)

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:20 pm
by Jeff V.
This is a killer price. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-DODGE-RAM ... Swf15abiRR

All the old Montero service manuals I'm finding have 3 digit price tags. There's a couple of mint 85 and 86 owners manuals on there for $179. :eek:

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:38 pm
by ChargerX3
Yikes. You grabbing that one or are you suggesting I do?

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:45 pm
by Jeff V.
You should. I've got a digital copy of the 89 Montero manual, but it's missing sections. It'll be good enough until I can find a better one.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:48 pm
by Duck Vader
I always found rock auto had decent pricing on manuals as well. Debated on getting one a couple of times for the XJ, but have always been able to find everything I need online.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:02 pm
by Jeff V.
I could get a Chilton book, but those don't come close to the level of detail the factory manuals have.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:06 pm
by Duck Vader
I want to say the FSM for the XJ was $70 new on Rock Auto. Not too bad.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:21 pm
by ChargerX3
[quote=""Jeff V.""]I could get a Chilton book, but those don't come close to the level of detail the factory manuals have.[/quote]

Second that.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:00 pm
by ChargerX3
Found this today:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Molded-Car ... vs&vxp=mtr

I have all of my carpet, but its not in great shape. Lots of stains and starting to fall apart in some places. Not sure if I want to pull it to clean, hold out for another Monti LWB or SWB, or just buy new and be done with it.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:11 pm
by Jeff V.
That's a pretty good price. Carpet is pretty far down my list of concerns, but it's good to know it's out there.

I went through that PDF manual some more last night. It looks like it might be complete. It's just oddly organized into a bunch of separate files based on topic. Let me know if you want me to upload it.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:24 pm
by ChargerX3
[quote=""Jeff V.""]

I went through that PDF manual some more last night. It looks like it might be complete. It's just oddly organized into a bunch of separate files based on topic. Let me know if you want me to upload it.[/quote]

Yea, shoot me the link if you dont mind. Id like to see what all is different from my MM.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:59 pm
by DCIV
How’s the power feel on the smaller Monti?


Coop

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:42 pm
by ChargerX3
[quote=""DCIV""]How’s the power feel on the smaller Monti?


Coop[/quote]

I haven't driven in a full size, but my 2 door appears to come in at around 3,200-3,400 lbs. About on par with a SOHC 3S. It feels like a light truck. About as light as the Mighty Max (3,100 lbs).

Now i haven't pushed it due to the bad head gasket, but once again it felt as quick as my Mighty max before the swap. Plenty enough power for the road and highway.

If i can successfully repair the head-gasket then I might keep it as is for a while and focus on a lift and other cosmetics.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:51 pm
by vr4
My swb auto does good. Not fast by any means but decent enough torque for what it is.

My SR goes pretty good. 1g VR4 cams actually made a fair improvement

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:05 pm
by DCIV
Better or worse than a Jeep with the 4.0?


Coop

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:13 pm
by ChargerX3
[quote=""DCIV""]Better or worse than a Jeep with the 4.0?


Coop[/quote]

XJ's are light and have an additional liter on the Monti, so in my guesstimate it would be a little quicker while having more torque.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:25 pm
by Duck Vader
http://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1 ... matic.html

XJ:
Weight: 1490 kg / 3280 lbs
190 HP and 225 TQ

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1 ... -door.html

Monti:
143 HP - 168 TQ
Weight: 1585 kg / 3494 lbs


Looks like XJ is about 2 seconds quicker to 60.

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:15 pm
by vr4
[quote=""DCIV""]Better or worse than a Jeep with the 4.0?


Coop[/quote]

My SR would spank a 4.0 the swb.... Not so much

Re: The Half Monti

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:58 pm
by ChargerX3
Yea, im not looking to win any races with the stock 3.0L. I just need it to run reliably for a bit. Later on I will likely put my 01 Monti 3.5L motor in it and then tackle the mountains.