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Will they fit?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:01 am
by DCIV
2020 silverado brakes on the avalanche. Will they fit?
https://youtu.be/PlJXBzKSFCQ
They are out of stock of calipers at rock auto. Tempted to try
https://www.ebay.com/itm/385202066201?m ... &media=SMS
Doubt I can return this. I dont see any at autozone or advance auto.
Thoughts? He gives measurements in the video but I feel like he subtracts at the end when he should be adding. I dont care to run small spacer to get some much nicer brakes.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:50 pm
by DCIV
Okay. So here is what I’m tempted to do.
Get them, if they don’t fit then they will on the wife’s Tahoe easily. So then I could just use the wife’s on the avalanche.
Win win.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:05 pm
by DCIV
Where are you guys. Coop is running the garage and no one’s keeping him in check.
Bought these.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:48 pm
by aaronatstate
I only know about Brembos.
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:54 pm
by DCIV
[quote=""aaronatstate""]I only know about Brembos.[/quote]
Any idea how much a brake caliper sticks out from the rotor? Like the top of the rotor is almost the top of the brake caliper but the sides arnt the same. Just trying to figure out if these will fit behind 18 wheels.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:47 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]Any idea how much a brake caliper sticks out from the rotor? Like the top of the rotor is almost the top of the brake caliper but the sides arnt the same. Just trying to figure out if these will fit behind 18 wheels.
Coop[/quote]
All depends on the caliper. On the Brembo 4 piston calipers the distance it sticks out from the rotor radially is around 26.5 to 30mm from the drawings I've found. As for the width of the caliper, the Brembo 4 pistons stick out 71-72mm from the centerline of the rotor.
It looks like the rotors on 19-22 Silverados are 13.5" so I would think it would fit under an 18" wheel, since 18" wheels almost always will clear 14" rotors. I think your biggest potential clearance issue will be the width of the caliper, and if the mounting points are the same.
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:51 pm
by DCIV
[quote=""aaronatstate""]All depends on the caliper. On the Brembo 4 piston calipers the distance it sticks out from the rotor radially is around 26.5 to 30mm from the drawings I've found. As for the width of the caliper, the Brembo 4 pistons stick out 71-72mm from the centerline of the rotor.
It looks like the rotors on 19-22 Silverados are 13.5" so I would think it would fit under an 18" wheel, since 18" wheels almost always will clear 14" rotors. I think your biggest potential clearance issue will be the width of the caliper, and if the mounting points are the same.[/quote]
According to Google they are 15 rotors.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:42 pm
by vr4
[quote=""DCIV""]According to Google they are 15 rotors.
Coop[/quote]
Ain't no way in hell those are fitting under 18s
13.5 for non brembo equipped trucks. You didn't buy brembo calipers.
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:05 pm
by DCIV
[quote=""vr4""]Ain't no way in hell those are fitting under 18s
13.5 for non brembo equipped trucks. You didn't buy brembo calipers.[/quote]
Well good as I want to fit these. Lol. The brakes on this truck are just sucky. Rotors cant be turned so I would have to get new rotors anyways. But if they dont fit Im sure they will fit on the Tahoe and Im sure the Tahoe will fit on the avalanche. Or if they just dont I bet I can get most my money back.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:52 pm
by DCIV
Can someone watch that YouTube video I posted. Very early on he put down some measurements. But he subtracted them, I feel like he should have added them. Maybe I just miss understood what he was doing.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:06 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""vr4""]Ain't no way in hell those are fitting under 18s
13.5 for non brembo equipped trucks. You didn't buy brembo calipers.[/quote]
You can get Brembo's on those??
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm
by DCIV
Also my wheels are 17’s.
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:24 pm
by DCIV
[quote=""aaronatstate""]You can get Brembo's on those??[/quote]
What makes brembo so great. Honest question. Is it like setrab where they release some sort of spec or something?
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:30 pm
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""DCIV""]What makes brembo so great. Honest question. Is it like setrab where they release some sort of spec or something?
Coop[/quote]
They made a name for themselves in performance applications and their fixed calipers are quasi synonyms with performance upgrades. Many mfgs make 4,6,8+ piston fixed calipers, Brembo has just done a good job of marketing themselves as 'the' OE performance brake supplier.
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:37 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]Also my wheels are 17s.
Coop[/quote]
17" in rims may be close, but I think it still should fit as I think some people ran 17" rims on EvoX's and they have 14" rotors.
[quote=""DCIV""]What makes brembo so great. Honest question. Is it like setrab where they release some sort of spec or something?
Coop[/quote]
They have the most race experience and equip everything from cars like my RS to Formula 1 cars. They're very light, and very strong, which is everything you want in a caliper. They also own AP Racing brakes now too. There is a reason all the high end performance vehicles, supercars, hypercars, MotoGP, F2 and F3, and the best teams in F1 use Brembo

Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:44 pm
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""aaronatstate""]17" in rims may be close, but I think it still should fit as I think some people ran 17" rims on EvoX's and they have 14" rotors.
They have the most race experience and equip everything from cars like my RS to Formula 1 cars. They're very light, and very strong, which is everything you want in a caliper. They also own AP Racing brakes now too. There is a reason all the high end performance vehicles, supercars, hypercars, MotoGP, F2 and F3, and the best teams in F1 use Brembo

[/quote]
Interesting, I know Stop Tech was bought out by Raybestos years ago now. Is Alcon still independent or are they owed by some corporate monolith too?
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:49 pm
by vr4
[quote=""aaronatstate""]You can get Brembo's on those??[/quote]
https://www.shopchevyparts.com/performa ... 11028.html
Optional on the RST
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:58 pm
by DCIV
[quote=""aaronatstate""]17" in rims may be close, but I think it still should fit as I think some people ran 17" rims on EvoX's and they have 14" rotors.
They have the most race experience and equip everything from cars like my RS to Formula 1 cars. They're very light, and very strong, which is everything you want in a caliper. They also own AP Racing brakes now too. There is a reason all the high end performance vehicles, supercars, hypercars, MotoGP, F2 and F3, and the best teams in F1 use Brembo

[/quote]
Okay. Lets pivot a little.
Why are 4 pistons much better? Just more and equal pressure on a brake pad? Does it get more scientific?
Coop
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:10 pm
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""DCIV""]Okay. Lets pivot a little.
Why are 4 pistons much better? Just more and equal pressure on a brake pad? Does it get more scientific?
Coop[/quote]
Yes and additionally fixed calipers tend to be less flexible than sliding calipers. This gives you better control and more linear braking forces.
Re: Will they fit?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:22 pm
by aaronatstate
[quote=""DCIV""]Okay. Lets pivot a little.
Why are 4 pistons much better? Just more and equal pressure on a brake pad? Does it get more scientific?
Coop[/quote]
What Chris said. 4 piston calipers give equal pressure on both sides, and can provide more force easily. With a sliding caliper, you are applying force to 1 side of the rotor, and then that reaction causes the caliper to slide on the pins and pull the outer pad into the rotor. It works, but it's not as effective as putting pressure on the rotor from both sides.