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The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:48 pm
by Monochrome
You know, I honestly believe to work at any generic autoparts store, they don't require people to know anything about cars. It's true. Some of the tales I tell about sales people really make you wonder....

In this case, I had Mike94TT come over this weekend to do a few things to his car. It was upper 90s, high humidity, sweat-your-nuts-off-till-you're-dehydrated-and-get-a-headache kinda day. Working outside with no electricity, lights, or fans and the 17 year old mexican women gawking at us like immature infantiles, we decided to take on a few projects. One being the jaunting task of replacing a fuel filer on a 3/S. Honestly, the job takes about 20 min start to finish assuming you can get the feed line appart without stripping the fitting or busting your metacarpus.

Something I'll never understand is why when you buy a fuel filter, it doesn't come with new copper crush washers. In my bewilderment, nearly every autoparts store sales clerk I come accross has never even heard of a washer that acts as a gasket. It's some kind of foreign designed object I guess. Usually I carry a stock of these, but my supply for the fuel lines is depleted at this point.

So we set out to the local Pepboys. There's a freckly redhead who normally works behind the counter (she's really the only reason I go there), but she was off that day. Instead, we're greeted by some younger dude on his first week on the job.

Knowing full well the I-bolts on the fuel filter assembly are custom only to mitsubishis, I brought one of the I-bolts old crush washers just to use as a reference.

The guy points us an isle down and we travel to it only to find there are only regular spacer washers. The trip back to the counter was endowed and I explained what exactly a crush washer is. The guy starts keying things into his thinking machine and comes up short. Then he goes to one of the older gentlemen who was in conference on the phone and assisting another customer.

Well, a few moments later, the kid was finally able to arouse his attention and I once again had to explain what exactly the fuck a copper crush washer was. He aggravatingly put the phone on hold, asked the kid to continue aiding the woman needing brake pads for her Cutlass. We walked 2 isles down to find 1 single box of 10 assorted copper crush washers in some generic size. 2 washers inside the floral container appeared to be close to the size we needed but we needed 4. Being unable to open the box and find out if any were the correct size, we bought it anyway and ventured towards the other Pepboys in the area for another box. Unfortunately, we didn't arrive in time and the doors were locked not minutes before our arrival.

So, we decided to call it a night and grab a bite to munch at the local mexican fast food chain eat place and on the way home, the heavens parted and we encountered a beam of hope in the sunset sky shining on an Autozone. Looking at the clock, it was 5 to 9 giving us just enough time to run in, grab what we need, and leave. Oh no, it's never that simple.

Run inside, ask the pimpled face snot licking virgin for copper crush washers and are commanded to check isle 5. Like I figured, no crush washers, only regular ones. Walk blissfully back to the counter again, ask the other adolescent nigrescent genepool failure where we can find crush washers, and he hands me some generic washer with 9/16ths stamped on it. *sigh* ...and again I explain to the inarticulately incoherent dim-witted monkey trash what exactly the fuck a crush washer is and it's purpose, even give him details on how it does what it does and why it can't be reused, and yet it was still too perplexing to him. "Yeah, we don't carry those."

So, rather than quarrel with the poor teen even more, I ask if they happen to carry any fuel filters (thinking maybe it would come with them). Guy asks for what make car and I say, "Dodge Stealth. Doesn't matter what year or make, they all use the same filter."

Monkey puss: "What year?"
me: "94, but it doesn't matter."
Monkey puss: "Fuel filter right?"
me: "Yessir."

*types things on the computer. Turns the monitor towards me* "Is this it?"

I glance at the conglomeration of part numbers and multi-colored menu selections and just say "sure," and the kid proceeds to the rear of the store to fetch it.

Mean while store clerk #2 AKA the virgin snot licker is locking the door, glances out at my VR4, and it somehow brings out all the joy his life does not have.

virgin snot licker: "Hey is that your VR4 out there!!!"
me: "Yeah, i just got it not long ago."
snot licker: "OMG! Those cars are SO AWESOME! I've always wanted one."
me: "Yeah, they're great cars, I've owned one my whole life..."
snotty puss interrupts: "I can't wait to get one. I'm going to domesticate the SHIT out of it. Ditch the stock motor, throw in a 400... Fucken chrome valve covers are going to be sticking out of the hood and no one will fuck with me. (by the way, i'm not over exaggerating this. These were almost his EXACT words) Guys are gonna come over to my place, see the jeep, and challenge to race and I'm gonna me like, let's go fucker. *inserts some retarded attempt at a buzzer noise which i guess was supposed to symbolize a garage door opener* "See that. Oh yeah, I'm gonna decimate you with that."
me: "that's great" :rolleyes:
special ed: "People will be so surprised. They won't know what was comming to them"
me: "I'm sure they will." (give thumbs up)

Schwartzemenugan finally comes back from behind the store with the fuel filter and sure enough, there's 6 crush washers in with it, but 5 of them are bent to shit somehow. He prances back again and comes back with a packet of 2 washers the exact same size. Guess he pulled them out of his ass or something... I don't know nor do I care.

For some reason, I couldn't just purchase the package of crush washers, we needed to buy the whole fuel filter. After the adventure to find the damn things combined with the obtuse 3KGT from upper Delware speech, we just got fed up, bought it, and hit the road.

...and now Mike's car is now happily ever after boosting with no throttle delay...

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:57 pm
by jackhammer
Dam dude, when it gets that bad, i just re-use the old ones.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:04 pm
by Monochrome
[quote=""jackhammer""]Dam dude, when it gets that bad, i just re-use the old ones.[/quote]

Tried and failed...

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:48 pm
by jackhammer
Really? Ive re-used them a lot in a pinch. never had one leak

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:48 pm
by CHAN
Special ed cracked me up, Ha

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:51 pm
by Monochrome
[quote=""jackhammer""]Really? Ive re-used them a lot in a pinch. never had one leak[/quote]

It pissed fuel so bad like it wasn't even there.

It's hit or miss with me when it comes to reusing crush washers.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:04 am
by TajMan
I ALWAYS RE-USE CRUSH WASHERS

Use some 600-800 grit sand paper, put sand paper on some flat glass or a car window, then rub the washer for awhile on both sides until it looks perfectly flat and new. - come to think of it this didn't work once it was still leaking on a clutch slave cylinder. I found a THICK copper washer I had that was from the head bolt on a motorcycle engine. I sanded this thick washer flat on both sides just like I would the regular crush washers, and it worked on my slave cylinder hydraulic line!

Yeah they should always come with new fuel filters though.

Parts store employees are morons. I wouldn't say "crush washer" to them because I know they'd just think about washers and send you down the wrong isle. I'd say something like "gasket that seals on a banjo bolt for a fuel line" knowing the average random employee might understand that correctly first.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:54 am
by My92Stealth
I used to work at an auto parts store. Please dont think all the employees are idiots. The teen retards most likely are, but not all of the employees are.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:23 am
by TajMan
[quote=""My92Stealth""]I used to work at an auto parts store. Please dont think all the employees are idiots. The teen retards most likely are, but not all of the employees are.[/quote]


Sorry, very generalized comment.

At the autozone in Bountiful where my parents live, I'd say 3/4ths of them are pretty car intelligent.

At the autozone in West Jordan where I live right now, EVERY one of them that works there are VERY car stupid, can only search for something you say in their autozone system.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:01 am
by jackhammer
[quote=""TajMan""]Use some 600-800 grit sand paper, put sand paper on some flat glass or a car window, then rub the washer for awhile on both sides until it looks perfectly flat and new..[/quote]Thats a good idea, i just clean them up real good.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:50 pm
by SeanVr4
hahaha....u should ask ryan about when we went to autozone to get a clutch alignment fork....that guy knew his shit...he didnt have the right part number in stock but he cross referenced the measurements for a 3s one then on the top of his head he knew a car with the same measurement...plugged it in the computer to double check and within 2mins we had one that would work

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:09 pm
by Monochrome
[quote=""My92Stealth""]I used to work at an auto parts store. Please dont think all the employees are idiots. The teen retards most likely are, but not all of the employees are.[/quote]

This is just meant to be a humorous tale to pass the time.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:41 pm
by TajMan
[quote=""Monochrome""]This is just meant to be a humorous tale to pass the time.[/quote]

He was commenting on my statement of all auto parts store employees are morons but yeah

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:09 pm
by Zentelis
It's hit or miss out here.. Both Autozone and Advance have
1) Folks that know their shit
2) Folks that don't give a shit
3) Folks that don't know shit.

But I do love the overly-excited pimple-poppers when they start talking about the 10 million horsepower car they're going to have "next year" :p
They're like 5 year olds who play pretend, but never grew up :p

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:24 pm
by jackhammer
Z, you need to swap 2 & 3 for extra effect :D

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:41 pm
by TajMan
We don't have Advance Auto.

We've got Checker(Kragen) and EVERY local Checker employee I've ever ran into seems to have a pretty good car intelligence. I guess they've got much better requirements or reasons for hiring than Autozone does.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:46 pm
by Nazarah
[quote=""Monochrome""]I can't wait to get one. I'm going to domesticate the SHIT out of it. Ditch the stock motor, throw in a 400... Fucken chrome valve covers are going to be sticking out of the hood and no one will fuck with me[/quote]

:lol: :lol:

I literally almost stopped breathing when I read that.

The guy in the cube next to me is giving me odd looks now :rolleyes:

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:12 am
by Twin-Turbo
I hate kids my age. Every day I have to explain how this shit works or that shit works. It is just fucking annoying.

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:34 am
by Ziploc
You all would HATE the Autozone employee's in my town. I've never met people so stupid in my life. You can walk in expecting service and they just sit there w/ a dumb look on their face like "what are you doing here" and they refuse to answer the phone. Its not just the don't give a fuck attitude that kills me, I've honestly asked for a thermostat for a "Dodge Stealth" they told me they didn't have one in stock after giving me the wrong one, so for shits and giggles I asked for a "3000GT" thermostat, guess what, they had that one in stock and it was cheaper???? Me and a buddy decided to mess w/ them one day and see if they had piston rings for an RX-7.....They honestly looked....VERY VERY HARD to find them :lmao:

Re: The tale of the crush washer.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:12 pm
by EricVR4
[quote=""SeanVr4""]hahaha....u should ask ryan about when we went to autozone to get a clutch alignment fork....that guy knew his shit...he didnt have the right part number in stock but he cross referenced the measurements for a 3s one then on the top of his head he knew a car with the same measurement...plugged it in the computer to double check and within 2mins we had one that would work[/quote]
:eek:

That's impressive!

And Greg, that sucks. Good story though :p