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Got a leak in my 4WS line yesterday. I was backing up and heard a loud hiss, then the 4ws light came on. I wasn't far from the house, but it started groaning pretty loud while steering home.

Got the car up and took a photo while turning the wheel left. You can see the spray from the leak in the first photo. No leak while turning right.



Close up.


Took the line out, there is a TON of rust under the rubber jacket.


I can't seem to find what this part is in my hard copy manual. What is it and where should I look for a new (used?) one. I haven't tried looking in CAPS yet, went right from the taking out the line to work.

There are three sections for steering listed in the manual. 1) Power steering 2) 4 wheel steering, and 3) 4 wheel steering - active (not in the manual)

What's the difference between 4 wheel steering and 4 wheel steering - active? Isn't the VR4 'active' and if so, why isn't in the manual?

Also, it says to use Dextron II atx fluid for the power steering fluid. Should I use Dextron III or do you recommend something else. The fluid in the system was yellow, and the atx is red, so I was curious...

Thanks!



Vira

I have always used dextron III, take the part to autozone and they can at least tell you what it is. Or get someone that is really good with caps to find it for you.


Coop

Think I finally found something. Probably would have found this if I had more time to have looked through the manual properly.

Power steering hydraulic pressure line to the rear control valve. (control piping/cylinder tube) ?

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I'm not very good with CAPS...but at least I have a clue now.

Edit: Look at that...dug my way through CAPS.
MB631724- $57.68 from Norco Mitsubishi (found a link on Stealth316, assume it's a recommended dealer?)

Good price? Any suggestion of where else to look?

LethalVR4 did an AWS delete to his car. Wouldn't hurt to ask if he still has that line.

I will be deleting it too in the 98 but not in the next few weeks.

I gotta nominate Vira's post as the sexiest post of the year. Damn you Gate!

I havent used norco I typically go with Rockville, can order by phone, fax, whatever makes you happy.

[quote=""TheHarleyMod""]I gotta nominate Vira's post as the sexiest post of the year. Damn you Gate! [/quote]

WTF?

Leaky PS line is sexy?

[quote=""Monochrome""]WTF?

Leaky PS line is sexy? [/quote]

Go back and re-read her entire post Can you imagine some useless waste of O2 like Paris Hilton making a post like that?

Girls working on cars is hot. I wish I could find one to work on my car. I would love a women that would go rip the engine out while I stay inside and watch TV. Of course I would probably help with the real nasty stuff, but she could do most of it.

Glad I'm not the only one with that leak this month.

[quote=""EvilNCarnate""]I havent used norco I typically go with Rockville, can order by phone, fax, whatever makes you happy.[/quote]

Quote requested from Rockville.

[quote=""sammage""]Glad I'm not the only one with that leak this month.[/quote]

The way that it's made...with water being able to just sit under the jacket, I'm surprised that this isn't a more common problem. I was thinking about replacing both lines, but I'm told the pressure line tends to go way before the return, (pressure line...imagine that? ) so I'll probably just replace the one.

[quote=""TheHarleyMod""]
Go back and re-read her entire post Can you imagine some useless waste of O2 like Paris Hilton making a post like that? [/quote]

Eh, I had a chance to figure it out before I made the thread. -1

[quote=""TheHarleyMod""]I gotta nominate Vira's post as the sexiest post of the year. Damn you Gate! [/quote]

Damn him! Damn him all to hell!

He's pretty lucky isn't he?

Thinking about ordering my lines from DiscountMitsubishiParts.

Decent place? Rockville never got back to me.

Did you send a web request to rockville? I tried that few times and never heard back...give them a call.

Terry

let me see if i have that line.



hrm...well i got the lines undamaged but shipping would likely be more than buying a new line from the dealer.

[quote=""vr4""]let me see if i have that line.

hrm...well i got the lines undamaged but shipping would likely be more than buying a new line from the dealer.[/quote]

Really? $60+ each?

What kind of condition are they in? Really rusty under the jacket or decent? These are the pressure/return lines that run next the brake lines?


Edit: GD! DiscountMitsu estimated a $15-20 shipping charge and Rockville estimated a $50-90 shipping charge!

[quote=""vegasidol""]Really? $60+ each?

What kind of condition are they in? Really rusty under the jacket or decent? These are the pressure/return lines that run next the brake lines?[/quote]



i think these are the lines. ill have to crawl under my 97 to make sure. its been nearly a year since i pulled them off my 91. as for condition...they appear perfect. ill pull the rubber back and double check the clamp fitting to make sure there is no rust under there.

[quote=""vr4""]i think these are the lines. ill have to crawl under my 97 to make sure. its been nearly a year since i pulled them off my 91. as for condition...they appear perfect. ill pull the rubber back and double check the clamp fitting to make sure there is no rust under there.[/quote]



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PM sent.

Norco has always been good to me, but of course, I can just drive over there if necessary.

Here is what I just did to fix the opposite end of those tubes (from what I could tell on the caps diagram). It requires 4 compression union fittings (9/16th inch) and 2 feet of 9/16th inch brake line. Get a tubing cutter and cut off the metal hard line on each side of the rubber line (getting rid of the stock fitting). Slide on the compression fitting on each end of the cut off tubing. Bend a piece of brake line (1 foot long) and slide compression fittings on both ends. Use the union to join the new tubing with the old and viola... fixed.

[quote=""Hans_GZP""]Here is what I just did to fix the opposite end of those tubes (from what I could tell on the caps diagram). It requires 4 compression union fittings (9/16th inch) and 2 feet of 9/16th inch brake line. [/quote]

Neat idea.

Do the fittings have some kind of rubber seal in them or does the tube itself get crushed between the fittings to make the seal? If it's the ladder, how long would it last under that kind of pressure? Could they withstand pressures as high as 50psi in the case of repairing fuel lines?

Are these available at any hardware store or did you get them from a specialty shop?