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[quote=""DCIV""]Don’t worry Ryan, most people here would have made it in a 4 cyl mustang on their spare skinny tires.

Coop[/quote]

Don't be stupid, no one on here said anything remotely close to this. Everyone just said you don't need a monster truck with lockers on every diff to get through 6 inches of snow. Jesus Christ.

Build whatever the fuck you want to man, like you said, it really doesn't matter what we said, your mother fuckin Cooper, and you do what you want.

Lol Aaron, you haven’t been the same since you’ve got that new focus. Sure it’s not golf envy?


Coop

Guys.

Just let coop be coop.

How many of us have bought things we want, not needed, in terms of cars?

I think reality is somewhere in the middle - Coop will Coop (and I really do think Overkill is your middle name), but there is also nothing wrong with doing what you want if it makes you feel good about getting to work when needed - and you can afford it. Our cars in Norway were typically RWD (up until probably 15 years ago when FWD and some AWD became common) but we also have mandatory use of winter tires from a certain date to a certain date.

[quote=""DCIV""]Lol Aaron, you haven’t been the same since you’ve got that new focus. Sure it’s not golf envy?


Coop[/quote]

No, I'm just sick of you acting like a baby when people don't tell you that your crazy ass ideas are good ones. It just happened to coincide with me getting an RS.

[quote=""DCIV""]So I’ve been trying to read what you want most as far as drivetrain for snow but lot of it is Jeep owners who are all too bad ass to use their lockers.

So I get when they are locked you can’t really turn but if your in deep snow anyways and going slow then I would think it’s better than open. But maybe I’m wrong. What about the front? Limited slip? What’s factory? For the avalanche for front? I just read about the rear?


Coop[/quote]

This is what I originally asked. All I was told for pages was I don’t need them. That’s not what I asked. I wasn’t being a baby I just wanted to talk about them. For all I know there are brands and types that are good and bad. More user friendly, electric, manual, air...

Kind of like you got pissed when you said, hey I’m gonna buy an RS but first person said buy a golf and you told them to fuck off. Seriously dude. How is that any different?


Coop

I don’t think Coop is paying enough taxes. No one should be able to have this much fun.

[quote=""DCIV""]This is what I originally asked. All I was told for pages was I don’t need them. That’s not what I asked. I wasn’t being a baby I just wanted to talk about them. For all I know there are brands and types that are good and bad. More user friendly, electric, manual, air...[/quote]

[quote=""DCIV""]So I’ve been trying to read what you want most as far as drivetrain for snow but lot of it is Jeep owners who are all too bad ass to use their lockers.

So I get when they are locked you can’t really turn but if your in deep snow anyways and going slow then I would think it’s better than open. But maybe I’m wrong. What about the front? Limited slip? What’s factory? For the avalanche for front? I just read about the rear?[/quote]

This is what you originally asked. You asked us, what we would want most for snow driving, and what we thought about the options you posted. Nearly everyone said the most important thing is a good set of tires. After than, then a rear locker. You still didn't seem to think that would be good enough in 6" of TN snow (which apparently is the worst snow in the world). You wanted us to agree with you needed full lockers minimum all around to be able to drive in snow, when you yourself have said you were able to get to work, while sketchy, in a stock Yukon, stock Accord, and your CRV.

[quote=""DCIV""]Kind of like you got pissed when you said, hey I’m gonna buy an RS but first person said buy a golf and you told them to fuck off. Seriously dude. How is that any different? [/quote]

And FYI, I had already bought the RS when Greg came in talking about the Golf R and how much better he thought it was. If it was a thread asking which do you think I should get, and RS or Golf R, rather than a thread about getting an RS, it would have been different.

All those vehicles were in town and 0 hills. I asked specifically about lockers. Not tires. Not vehicle, lockers. But apparently no one here has ever been stuck in snow. Period.


Coop

Kids - to your rooms. And no dinner!

[quote=""alienviking""]Kids - to your rooms. And no dinner![/quote]

But mommmmmmmm lol


Coop

Sorry Coop but Sierra snow is probably a lot worse than what you get, they don't call it Sierra Cement for nothing. It has higher water content than most of the other snow in the country making it much easier to get stuck. When I drove my Explorer through 6"-8" of it with only a locked center diff, open front and rear diff, and TCS off I had no issues getting out.

Even going back to my parents old Explorer I drove it through my town in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains with 6"-8" of unplowed snow without issues. That Explorer was 4x4 and had a 180k mile factory limited slip rear and an open front diff.

My point is all of this fancy over the top stuff isn't necessary if you are careful. Yes it can be helpful if used properly, but it can also be used as a crutch for bad habits. I think to a lot of us it sounds like you are going to use it as a crutch which is why we telling you to cool your jets on building a very capable rock crawling vehicle simply to get out of your driveway.

[quote=""DCIV""]All those vehicles were in town and 0 hills. I asked specifically about lockers. Not tires. Not vehicle, lockers. But apparently no one here has ever been stuck in snow. Period.


Coop[/quote]

Our point, is, you may not need to spend the money on lockers. You could potentially put that money towards buying a newer/better equipped vehicle, get a nice set of tires, and likely be just as good (if not better) in the snow.

[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]Sorry Coop but Sierra snow is probably a lot worse than what you get, they don't call it Sierra Cement for nothing. It has higher water content than most of the other snow in the country making it much easier to get stuck. When I drove my Explorer through 6"-8" of it with only a locked center diff, open front and rear diff, and TCS off I had no issues getting out.

Even going back to my parents old Explorer I drove it through my town in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains with 6"-8" of unplowed snow without issues. That Explorer was 4x4 and had a 180k mile factory limited slip rear and an open front diff.

My point is all of this fancy over the top stuff isn't necessary if you are careful. Yes it can be helpful if used properly, but it can also be used as a crutch for bad habits. I think to a lot of us it sounds like you are going to use it as a crutch which is why we telling you to cool your jets on building a very capable rock crawling vehicle simply to get out of your driveway.[/quote]

This is a much nicer way of saying what I was trying to say

Ive been stuck in the snow, but...but never with a rear lsd/locker. Hmm...I take that back several weeks after my snow video above I got high centered on a campfire full of large boulders in my Stealth. Couldn't even see them with all the snow. Happened in front of a lot of other college friends. I felt like a fool for asking them to lift my ass up off the rocks.

/derp

If he is just worried about snow the Avalanche is not the right one. He is looking for a replacement for the Humvee.

What Coop really needs.



#becausespecialprojects!

I've been stuck in snow. And dirt. Hell my uncle got a big John Deere so stuck in a field he was laying on the oil pan and it took two other big JDs to pull him out haha!

I know this is kind of off-topic, but I was only ever stuck once and had to use my winch to pull myself out and it wasn't because of deep snow or mud. I high centered both my diffs at the same time on big rocks.

This is what my uncle bottomed out on the field.. except he had twin rear wheels on at the time: