Mitsubishi Mighty Max

[Monochrome]

Do the 4cyl and the 6cyl share the same trans? That would help brauden my search.

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""DCIV""]will you hurry up and put a 3.5l twin turbo in this thing so I can decide if I like it or not.


Coop[/quote]

Lol, tell the cold, wet weather to go away. I want to see if I can get the Monti started as im suspicious the owner ran it out of oil. I found 3 quarts of oil in the middle seat and the dipstick has fresh oil that only reads at the low mark. The only other thing i can think of is that the starter crapped out. Either on its own, or from him trying to start it once it seized.

Im a bit hesitant to jump in to TT'ing it. SMOG is one, but I would really like to see how well it performs as a NA 3.5, 3.8, or even MIVEC as i have an extra set of heads I would need to make some repairs to. Also anyone have a 98 Montero wiring harness sitting around or TT?

I must admit it is a pretty exciting project.

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""Monochrome""]Do the 4cyl and the 6cyl share the same trans? That would help brauden my search.[/quote]

Nope, different. The 4 cyl (km145) is good to about 300-350hp from some people. It also wont bolt up to a 6cyl. Nobody has really said what the 6cyl (v5mt1) trans can take. One guy says it should hold up to a mild TT build is all. One thing that is nice about it is that it is a cast iron case opposed to the smaller cast aluminum on the 4cyl. Im hoping it can take 400-500hp.

The manual v5mt1 looks to only be found in 90-94 Max's/D50's and 88-91 v6 monti's. You could always do an auto rwd swap though. That would be fun for no lag shifting. There is a newer version that is only found overseas, but it would be insanely expensive.

[DCIV]

extra set of mivec heads you say......

Regardless you are going to have to do some work on that 3.5, I agree you need to figure it out before pulling it. You dont think you couldn't make it look stock enough that you could just call it a super special edition for a class of racers that needed so many built?


Coop

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""DCIV""]extra set of mivec heads you say......

Regardless you are going to have to do some work on that 3.5, I agree you need to figure it out before pulling it. You dont think you couldn't make it look stock enough that you could just call it a super special edition for a class of racers that needed so many built?


Coop[/quote]

The goal is to make it look as stock as possible. Dropping in a late 3.5 out of a monti will appear very similar. Will even still be SOHC. Some of the Eclipse guys claim their SOHC's flow similar to our DOHC TT heads. That would be a plus. Here is what I am thinking:



vs now...



Wont look too much different. Even the intakes will be virtually identical. Coils would be the only give away.

[ChargerX3]

Here is the build thread from Natedog on 3si. He has yet to finish, but the pics look good towards the end. Too bad he wants to sell. Maybe someone here might be interested...

http://www.mightyram50.net/vbulletin/sh ... Turbo-Swap

[Monochrome]

Really?!?

[DCIV]

Is there not room to run stock turbos? He didn't but was just curious. If not then I would just go 3.8l n/a.....or possible supercharger before I started doing that much fab work.


Coop

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""Monochrome""]Really?!?[/quote]
For realz.
[quote=""DCIV""]Is there not room to run stock turbos? He didn't but was just curious. If not then I would just go 3.8l n/a.....or possible supercharger before I started doing that much fab work.


Coop[/quote]

I think there should be plenty. There is more room than a 3S. Problem is everyone wants to run 3s manifolds. Wont work as they are for transverse mounting. Making some simple manifolds out of tubing that tie into td04's should be fun to do.

For the time being though. I would rather get it running. That should be challenging enough with the new motor, new ECU and wiring harness.

[DCIV]

[quote=""ChargerX3""]For realz.


I think there should be plenty. There is more room than a 3S. Problem is everyone wants to run 3s manifolds. Wont work as they are for transverse mounting. Making some simple manifolds out of tubing that tie into td04's should be fun to do.

For the time being though. I would rather get it running. That should be challenging enough with the new motor, new ECU and wiring harness.[/quote]

It just screams to me that if you could put stock mani's and turbos...clock the turbos correctly, from there all you have to do is run intercooler pipes together and either run it into an intercooler or directly into the throttle body (wastegate boost)...use two front exhaust dumps, and then take it to an exhaust shop and have them make you the downpipe to stock or other exhaust.


Coop

[Monochrome]

The stock 3/S turbos and the manifold would be pointed in the wrong directions.

[DCIV]

[quote=""Monochrome""]The stock 3/S turbos and the manifold would be pointed in the wrong directions.[/quote]

Clock the turbo outlet strait up, rear already is. Use front turbo dump for exhaust on each turbo.

What the problem be?


Coop

[ChargerX3]

Would rather take a day or two and make it custom and clean. Either way going NA for now.

[ChargerX3]

Went out last night in the freezing cold to turn over the motor by hand with the breaker bar. Its very tight again, but does turn. I turned it probably just shy of 180* and didn't notice anything hanging up the motor. No obstructions and it felt like there was normal compression still in there.

I think im leaning towards the guy (did i mention he was a young dude with a full on mountain beard and yes wearing a fanny pack?) not changing the oil like he should and running it dry, causing it to seize. I mentioned earlier that I found 3 empty quart bottles in the back seat and the dipstick was just shy of the low mark but looked like fresh oil.

What are your guy's thoughts?

I'm tempted to pull the upper intake and pour a couple tablespoons of oil down each runner to help lube back up the cylinders, so that the starter can crank it over.

[DCIV]

If he ran it dry....pull it as its done for.

Coop

[Jeff V.]

Also anyone have a 98 Montero wiring harness sitting around or TT?

How bad do you want one? I swear I just saw one at one of the local yards.

I also just noticed one of the yards has this:

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1990	MITSUBISHI	MITSUBISHI PICKUP	5 Speed	Pickup	2.4L 	4Cyl	Red Ext	Grey Int

Let me know if there's anything you need from it. I'll try to track down that engine harness.

[Jeff V.]

What is this silliness?



Just go with the individual cam/crank sensors off the 93+ cars.... :d isdain:

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""Jeff V.""]How bad do you want one? I swear I just saw one at one of the local yards.

I also just noticed one of the yards has this:

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1990	MITSUBISHI	MITSUBISHI PICKUP	5 Speed	Pickup	2.4L 	4Cyl	Red Ext	Grey Int

Let me know if there's anything you need from it. I'll try to track down that engine harness.[/quote]
Oooh nice. Is the harness well exposed enough? If not there is a yard an hour away that lists one being there.

There are a couple interior parts that I can think of off hand. If in great condition:
-rear view mirror
-door arm rests
-inside door levers
-sport dash cluster. Easy way to tell is it has a tach. Mine doesn't but I'm wired for it.
-dash clock

I'll see if I can think up some more...
[quote=""Jeff V.""]What is this silliness?



Just go with the individual cam/crank sensors off the 93+ cars.... :d isdain:[/quote]

Yea he made things harder on himself that way. Pretty interesting the measures he took just to keep the parts he had. I mean it's a socket in there. Lol

[Jeff V.]

There are a couple interior parts that I can think of off hand. If in great condition:
-rear view mirror
-door arm rests
-inside door levers
-sport dash cluster. Easy way to tell is it has a tach. Mine doesn't but I'm wired for it.
-dash clock

I'll see what I can do. That yard is having a 50% off sale this weekend too.

I mean it's a socket in there.

That's what I thought it was

BTW, those 98 Monteros were all Sport models. Dunno if that matters or not.

[ChargerX3]

[quote=""Jeff V.""]I'll see what I can do. That yard is having a 50% off sale this weekend too.



That's what I thought it was

BTW, those 98 Monteros were all Sport models. Dunno if that matters or not.[/quote]

Great, that's some nice savings. That harness should be fine. You almost never find the regular monteros anyway. I don't think there is much of a difference in the harnesses but I'll let someone else chime in.