Can you handle another owners Forescan, or would that be deemed inappropriate?
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:30 am
by Jeff V.
There's enough extra Forscan for everyone to have their own.
I went out and popped the dash trim apart to figure out the Android Auto situation, and to see how it was wired out. This thing was done professionally. It's such a refreshing change from the butcher work I've seen in other cars. It looks like they used this kit: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_541RPK4FD ... Black.html
Nothing was cut. Everything was taped with high end fabric Tesa tape, or zip tied properly. All the screws were there. I think the Android problem may have been user error. It's working fine now.
It's almost a shame to think I might take it all out and retrofit a Sync system.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:35 am
by Chris GTO TT
Oh man that's so nice when everything isn't hack and slash!
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:39 am
by Chris GTO TT
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:01 pm
I bet I could figure out how to add it to a GM truck That's a huge part of why I was looking for GM in the first place. I know their electronics inside and out. Looks like it may be a moot point. Forscan looks almost like magic. I can't believe they give it away for free...
Yeah it's so awesome. I activated 'Bambi mode' where the fog lights stay on with the high beams (technically illegal) and the turn signals as DRL on my truck. It's also the app they use to upfit Sync2 trucks like mine with Sync3, which I also did.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:11 am
by Jeff V.
I already have the first mod coming.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:59 am
by aaronatstate
I did Bambi mode on the Explorer and RS. Also changed sync3 screens over to the Ford GT skins cause they are a lot nice. Also changed the tap to pass to 5 blinks on the Explorer and added outside air temp to the gauge cluster since it doesn’t show on the sync screen when you have CarPlay going.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:53 am
by Jeff V.
Outside air temp would be nice since I don't have a factory head unit.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:54 pm
by aaronatstate
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:53 am
Outside air temp would be nice since I don't have a factory head unit.
But the first thing in there is how to disable the auto start/stop (if it doesn't have the plug in thing).
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:49 pm
by Jeff V.
I saw that. It's pretty impressive. BTW, there's no dongle hanging off the switch. I took it out for some errands last night and noticed the disable icon didn't show up automatically. But the truck never shut off. So I don't know what to think now. I'll worry about it later.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:56 pm
by Jeff V.
This is bad. This is very very bad.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:58 pm
by aaronatstate
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:49 pm
I saw that. It's pretty impressive. BTW, there's no dongle hanging off the switch. I took it out for some errands last night and noticed the disable icon didn't show up automatically. But the truck never shut off. So I don't know what to think now. I'll worry about it later.
Probably disabled via ForScan then, my guess anyway. Not worth worrying about at this point for sure. Looks like you can potentially add the OAT to the cluster if I read it right on the IPC tab (row 194).
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:59 pm
by aaronatstate
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:56 pm
This is bad. This is very very bad.
You upgraded to a Superduty already?! Really putting Chris to shame now
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:01 pm
by Duck Vader
I love my 2012 super duty but damn do I wish I had that interior.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:08 pm
by Jeff V.
So according to Chris, the cab was the same between F150 and Super Duty. So theoretically I could get a 22 SD dash and add that giant screen.
Buuuut, it looks like Sync 4 requires the same kind of crazy network upgrades that GMs Info 3 system needs. So I can't realistically make it work.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:16 pm
by aaronatstate
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:08 pm
So according to Chris, the cab was the same between F150 and Super Duty. So theoretically I could get a 22 SD dash and add that giant screen.
Buuuut, it looks like Sync 4 requires the same kind of crazy network upgrades that GMs Info 3 system needs. So I can't realistically make it work.
You can always go to Sync 3.4 which is nice (though no massive screen).
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:22 pm
by aaronatstate
Some oil analysis done on Ford trucks not using start stop, and using start stop. Turns out, it's better to use start stop
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:25 pm
by Jeff V.
Aaron wrote:You can always go to Sync 3.4 which is nice (though no massive screen).
That's tentatively the plan. It'll all depend on how easily I can find cheap parts on eBay, and enough technical reference info to build a harness. The plug and play conversion kits seem to be well over $1500. Hell no. HARD pass.
If I can't piece it together out of inexpensive used parts like I do with all my other projects, then it's not happening. The Sony unit will have to be good enough.
Aaron wrote:You can always go to Sync 3.4 which is nice (though no massive screen).
That's tentatively the plan. It'll all depend on how easily I can find cheap parts on eBay, and enough technical reference info to build a harness. The plug and play conversion kits seem to be well over $1500. Hell no. HARD pass.
If I can't piece it together out of inexpensive used parts like I do with all my other projects, then it's not happening. The Sony unit will have to be good enough.
I know in the RS, which came with standard Sync3, you could upgrade to 3.4, though it's not approved by Ford (why I haven't done it), as the 3.4 APIM hardware is different. Not sure how it works for a vehicle that didn't have Sync to start with though (I'm assuming yours had the small not Sync dash originally).
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:44 pm
by Chris GTO TT
The parts needed for that conversion are VERY expensive unless you find it all used but it's only from 2022 Super Duties Lariat and above or maybe XLTs with the high trim option package.
Re: Let's try Ford now.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:47 pm
by Jeff V.
Mine was stock with the 4" and some kind of base Sync. I think that's just BT audio and some limited voice recognition?
The upgrade harnesses in the pictures don't look bad at all. It's easily within my ability to do if I can find the right info. I'm not even against swapping over an entire donor dash harness if it turns out that would enable other upgrades.
A whole year of Corvette production is like a week of F-series production. Parts are plentiful.