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[alienviking]

[quote=""DCIV""]Is it bad that I would rather have a used Tahoe than a new telluride?


Coop[/quote]

Yes. I'd take a Telluride over an used Tahoe ANY day.

[Chris GTO TT]

[quote=""DCIV""]Is it bad that I would rather have a used Tahoe than a new telluride?


Coop[/quote]
Depends on the reason.
[quote=""alienviking""]Yes. I'd take a Telluride over an used Tahoe ANY day.[/quote]

I'd generally agree unless I needed to tow more than 5000lbs, but I have the truck for that now.

[Duck Vader]

If towing wasn't needed I'd recommend a telluride as well

[DCIV]

It would be nice to have something that I could eventually get rid of the avalanche. Long term. But then again, trying to plan for the future is hard.


Coop

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]That article reminds me my wife seems to want a Subaru Ascent and I'm trying to convince her to at least look at the Telluride/Palisade twins.[/quote]

Yeah the Kia/Hyundai twins are really nice. They’d be on the list for sure.

[DCIV]

Ford Explorer ST really has me curious, I also don’t like the idea of these high HP 4 cyl’s for longevity. I guess the ST shares the same problem of turbocharging a vehicle. It’s no longer the 80’s when people worried the turbo would go out every 20k, it’s the head gaskets on these vehicles.


Coop

[alienviking]

I see the planning for a potential future, but something like the Telluride rides so much better than a Tahoe does (not to mention gas mileage etc) that sacrificing that for something that MAY happen 5-8 years from now just wouldn't happen for me.

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""DCIV""]Ford Explorer ST really has me curious, I also don’t like the idea of these high HP 4 cyl’s for longevity. I guess the ST shares the same problem of turbocharging a vehicle. It’s no longer the 80’s when people worried the turbo would go out every 20k, it’s the head gaskets on these vehicles.


Coop[/quote]

I don’t think the head gaskets are the biggest problem with the EcoBoost engines. I’ve seen some sporadic posting about it, but it’s far from a common issue, or anything to be remotely worried about. Yeah the RS had head gasket issues, but that was because Ford built the engines with the wrong head gasket. They owned it, had a recall, and fixed the issue.

[Chris GTO TT]

Yeah most of the issues with ford's EcoBoost engine are not necessarily related to the Turbo. Some of the very early 3.5s had some turbo failures but that's been mostly resolved. I think the biggest problems with the new direct injection turbo engines, across all brands, are carbon build up and some oil consumption issues.

[DCIV]

[quote=""aaronatstate""]I don’t think the head gaskets are the biggest problem with the EcoBoost engines. I’ve seen some sporadic posting about it, but it’s far from a common issue, or anything to be remotely worried about. Yeah the RS had head gasket issues, but that was because Ford built the engines with the wrong head gasket. They owned it, had a recall, and fixed the issue.[/quote]

1.6/1.5 cyl leakage is a huge issue with ecoboost engines. Happens in 2.0 as well, just not as common. It’s 3 times a day someone with 1.5/1.6 escape post up about their engine. Granted they sold a bunch of these but it’s a lot.


Coop

[DCIV]

[quote=""alienviking""]I see the planning for a potential future, but something like the Telluride rides so much better than a Tahoe does (not to mention gas mileage etc) that sacrificing that for something that MAY happen 5-8 years from now just wouldn't happen for me.[/quote]

That’s a great point. She needs to drive both.


Coop

[aaronatstate]

[quote=""DCIV""]1.6/1.5 cyl leakage is a huge issue with ecoboost engines. Happens in 2.0 as well, just not as common. It’s 3 times a day someone with 1.5/1.6 escape post up about their engine. Granted they sold a bunch of these but it’s a lot.


Coop[/quote]

Who gives a shit about 1.5L EcoBoosts?? You are looking at Explorers, they come with a 2.3 or 3.5L EcoBoost, neither of which has much of any problems except maybe the carbon build up Chris talked about.
Just because one engine a company makes has issues, doesn’t mean they all will. Look at the RS head gasket issue. It only affected the RS 2.3, not the Mustang, or any SUV with it.

And I think the 2020+ Explorer ST 3.5 has the direct and port injection like the F150, so the build up is not even an issue.

[DCIV]

https://www.carmax.com/car/19021868

Front runner

Love the inside, tow package, price is a hair high but doable. Still waiting for Xmas to see if they run a 0% finance at the factory.


Coop

[tabasco122]

Man thats a lot of money for a plain ass mommy mobile.

[DCIV]

[quote=""tabasco122""]Man thats a lot of money for a plain ass mommy mobile.[/quote]

Yup. Amazing they cost so much.


Coop

[tabasco122]

it just looks so bland inside and out. I feel like most trucks these days have a nicer interior than that. I do like the leather color though.

[DCIV]

[quote=""tabasco122""]it just looks so bland inside and out. I feel like most trucks these days have a nicer interior than that. I do like the leather color though.[/quote]

Really? I think the interior is one of the nicer things about this vehicle.


Coop

[alienviking]

IMO the interior looks 10 years older than it is. Nothing bad about it really, just looks outdated to me. But that is a general issue I have with a lot of truck interiors.

What was the price? Just listed as N/A now. And that gas mileage is pretty horrid hah.

[DCIV]

I think it was 48k


Coop

[alienviking]

About what I would expect for it. They are stupid expensive new.