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Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:25 pm
by Jeff V.
Here's my $30,000 fix to Coop's problem.

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:29 pm
by Silver
That makes it worse Jeff!
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:46 pm
by DCIV
Minus the fact that I get you all don't think it's needed. I don't get you being opposed to me making something like this? I figured some of you would offer actual helpful info. Like the rear pulley on the timing should have it to. At least that's what I get from looking at it....so I will have two.
Besides that I don't get the hate? But make fun all you want as you KNOW I will make it and will install it. Why? Because I CAN!
Coop
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:49 pm
by Jeff V.
Devin wrote:That makes it worse Jeff!
Nope. There's only one belt on my engine. It's for the alternator, and it's in a place where it can't damage anything if it breaks.
The timing system is all chain drive, and my AC, power steering and coolant pumps are gear driven along the side of the engine. The high pressure pumps for the direct injection are driven by the camshafts.

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:51 pm
by DCIV
I think he is saying makes it worse giving me ideas.
Coop
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:52 pm
by Duck Vader
[quote=""DCIV""]Why? Because I CAN!
Coop[/quote]

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:35 pm
by DCIV
Okay, couple things.
I still felt and heard compression...never had a dull spot for more than a quarter of the crank cog. Never had a bind. Was running when I shut it off.
What's the chances this is okay?
And
If I have preset cam gears....does that help or hurt me in this situation. I just hate that it may have skipped and may be in disbelief as the timing belt is TIGHT, tensioner pulley is correct, and tensioner is working.
Guess what I am asking, is there a way to tell without putting on a whole new belt and all the work?
Coop
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:38 pm
by Jeff V.
Install the new belt. Crank the engine by hand to make sure it's not binding. Pull the valve covers to see if all the valves are moving as they should. Then do a compression test.
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:40 pm
by DCIV
No scope can show me? No crushed spark plug? No way of knowing now huh?
This sucks.
Coop
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:10 pm
by Silver
[quote=""Jeff V.""]Nope. There's only one belt on my engine. It's for the alternator, and it's in a place where it can't damage anything if it breaks.
The timing system is all chain drive, and my AC, power steering and coolant pumps are gear driven along the side of the engine. The high pressure pumps for the direct injection are driven by the camshafts.

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Oh I know, I'm a member of the timing chain crew myself

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:26 pm
by Duck Vader
Look how complicated all of yours are...
Here is a Jeep 4.0...

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:31 pm
by Silver
^ Simplest answer is the most reliable answer lol
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:37 pm
by tabasco122
chain here also

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:50 pm
by Jeff V.
Ryan wrote:Chain here also
But somehow your accessory belt was still able to eat up your engine

Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:57 pm
by Silver
I can't say shit, I've got one accessory belt driving the alt but if it goes it'll take out the radiator fan.
Bout it.
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:59 pm
by tabasco122
lol, but my timing is safe, as long as the drive belt doesnt go through the crank seal and get tangled in the timing chain........
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:01 pm
by Duck Vader
[quote=""Silver""]^ Simplest answer is the most reliable answer lol[/quote]
I have worked on a lot of engines, and I have to admit, the easiest one I have worked on is the 4.0 in the 2 XJ's and the LJ I have had. Not only are they reliable, they are also damn near bulletproof. Too bad they were not more efficient and are rather weak (decent torque = 235 --- but low on hp = 190). I am glad I have them in my jeeps though.
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:02 pm
by Silver
Hey Ryan, any experience with the 335d?
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:04 pm
by tabasco122
Different engine, but they make a fuckton of torque pretty easily.
Re: Lets talk timing
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:15 pm
by Silver
I've been perusing 4 door people haulers and just found out they made a diesel one.
Figured I'd ask the resident Bimmer guy as the top things I've ran across are the diesel 335 and the diesel liberty...I'd feel a little too girly in the liberty but usually try to avoid german cars.