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Re: Tow truck
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:53 pm
by ChargerX3
vr4 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:45 pm
Duck Vader wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:07 pm
For what it's worth, the outback and trailer it was on, combined weight was about 7k. Could barely tell it was there behind my f250 (I also have air suspension in the back). Also have had over 2k in the bed 4 times since I got it. The ram 1500 for work, you can definitely tell when even an empty utv trailer is there. Mpg drops like crazy and you can feel it fighting. Engine power is good but chassis isn't set up for it.
Coil spring rear? They're soft and comfy but absolutely suck when asked to do anything.
Yes. Noticeably better ride characteristics than bouncy leaves. Also just fine when you properly load your trailer to the correct tongue weight.
On a side note 1500's came with the option for air bags. They make a set that can inflate inside the coil as well for those heavy loads. I may consider that if I ever get into heavy hauling again,
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:15 pm
by vr4
ChargerX3 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:53 pm
vr4 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:45 pm
Duck Vader wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:07 pm
For what it's worth, the outback and trailer it was on, combined weight was about 7k. Could barely tell it was there behind my f250 (I also have air suspension in the back). Also have had over 2k in the bed 4 times since I got it. The ram 1500 for work, you can definitely tell when even an empty utv trailer is there. Mpg drops like crazy and you can feel it fighting. Engine power is good but chassis isn't set up for it.
Coil spring rear? They're soft and comfy but absolutely suck when asked to do anything.
Yes. Noticeably better ride characteristics than bouncy leaves. Also just fine when you properly load your trailer to the correct tongue weight.
On a side note 1500's came with the option for air bags. They make a set that can inflate inside the coil as well for those heavy loads. I may consider that if I ever get into heavy hauling again,
Trailing arm bushings like to wear out when towing. They're the front ball joints of the 1500 world. Every 30k
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:10 pm
by aaronatstate
Has anyone mentioned lockers yet?
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:21 pm
by alienviking
ChargerX3 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:46 pm
Until you have to reverse. Then you're F'd.
Curious - never towed a 2 wheel dolly like that but backed up a lot of stuff back in my farm days so wondering how this works that makes it super hard to back up? Clearly harder than a regular trailer with the wheels at the back but does it work sort of like a two axle trailer where the front axle turns? Those can definitely be a bitch to back up.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:51 pm
by Duck Vader
I'd assume because so short that very little input causes major changes in direction.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:56 pm
by DCIV
aaronatstate wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:10 pm
Has anyone mentioned lockers yet?
I sent jeff a picture the other day of my truck, in 4wd low, ended up spinning 3 tires while getting out the boat.
Coop
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:07 pm
by ChargerX3
alienviking wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:21 pm
ChargerX3 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:46 pm
Until you have to reverse. Then you're F'd.
Curious - never towed a 2 wheel dolly like that but backed up a lot of stuff back in my farm days so wondering how this works that makes it super hard to back up? Clearly harder than a regular trailer with the wheels at the back but does it work sort of like a two axle trailer where the front axle turns? Those can definitely be a bitch to back up.
The top plate where your car straps down swivels independently from the axles under it. When backing up and trying to turn, small input turns into the cars back wheels slowly turning while the dolly axles try to excape whichever direction they are headed in as fast as possible.
Here is a video on soft ground which is quite a bit more forgiving. On asphalt its a bit different as your tires want to bite in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyilC09edoo
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:12 pm
by Chris GTO TT
You can't really back up because there's 2 articulation points (hitch and steering) which causes binding. Same reason why you can't back up a flat tow car.
As far as the original question a max tow package F150 can do it but payload capacity tends to limit what any truck can tow. If you really want an enclosed trailer then an F250 is probably a better choice.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:34 pm
by Duck Vader
vr4 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:45 pm
Duck Vader wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 4:07 pm
For what it's worth, the outback and trailer it was on, combined weight was about 7k. Could barely tell it was there behind my f250 (I also have air suspension in the back). Also have had over 2k in the bed 4 times since I got it. The ram 1500 for work, you can definitely tell when even an empty utv trailer is there. Mpg drops like crazy and you can feel it fighting. Engine power is good but chassis isn't set up for it.
Coil spring rear? They're soft and comfy but absolutely suck when asked to do anything.
Yup. Just checked. Coil spring rear.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:59 pm
by aaronatstate
Probably should just get one of these for towing your VR4. Makes them feel at home.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:03 pm
by Chris GTO TT
aaronatstate wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:59 pm
Probably should just get one of these for towing your VR4. Makes them feel at home.
I should get one for my WRX too
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:37 pm
by Jeff V.
Hmm. Maybe I'll make a play to claim Vira's dad's Sprinter.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:59 pm
by ChargerX3
Get a Fuso for that Bish...i.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:22 pm
by Jeff V.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:39 pm
by Chris GTO TT
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:05 am
by ChargerX3
How did you find that? Lol!
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:39 am
by Jeff V.
Once upon a time I was a fan of Japanese cars.
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:34 am
by ChargerX3
Pfft. You still are. Just in denial
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:23 am
by Jeff V.
The only Japanese car I'd even half consider buying would be a Lexus LC 500. Everything else these days is
Re: Tow truck
Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:28 am
by DCIV
Jeff V. wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:23 am
The only Japanese car I'd even half consider buying would be a Lexus LC 500. Everything else these days is
GTR?
Coop