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Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:27 pm
by Toni
[quote=""Duck Vader""]Been looking at the m18 1/2" impact myself. Already have the batteries. But not sure $200 is worth it for me right now. Would have been nice but haven't truly needed one yet.[/quote]
Not sure what you are using now but before I was using a corded impact from HF which worked semi ok on wheel lugs but it bounced around a lot and the cord was annoying especially in the cold.
I was unsure of justifying the the cost of the m18 1/2" and I had to spend more than you because it was the start of my m18 line (batteries+charger needed). I am glad I made the purchase even if I only use it under normal circumstances a few times a year. More in some years when I want to rebuild shit and with two 3S, that happens for sure

Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:11 pm
by Duck Vader
Might get one soon. Will watch for sale price
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:47 pm
by mjannusch
[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]I have an air compressor so I just stick with my earthquake air tools from harbor freight. Ryobi doesn't make a good 1/2" 18v impact which is part of why I just use pneumatic.[/quote]
Ryobi does have a new 18V brushless 1/2" impact driver now. I haven't used one to comment on it though. It is rated for 600 ft/lbs breakaway and 450 ft-lbs fastening.
https://www.ryobitools.com/products/det ... act-wrench
I do have the 3/8" brushless version, which has worked well so far. Can't say that I've had any occasion to really put it to the test on something big and stuck though.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:50 pm
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""mjannusch""]Ryobi does have a new 18V brushless 1/2" impact driver now. I haven't used one to comment on it though. It is rated for 600 ft/lbs breakaway and 450 ft-lbs fastening.
https://www.ryobitools.com/products/det ... act-wrench
I do have the 3/8" brushless version, which has worked well so far. Can't say that I've had any occasion to really put it to the test on something big and stuck though.[/quote]
Oh nice I might need to pick up one of those!
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:15 pm
by tabasco122
That’s half the dewalt and Milwaukee
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:01 am
by Chris GTO TT
And that's why I have Ryobi lol
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:18 am
by tabasco122
i meant power wise lol. I feel like thats not even strong enough to get off stuff that you would want an impact for. even my dewalt struggled with a crank bolt before.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:36 am
by Chris GTO TT
Oh eh. My pneumatic is like 800 and it's fine for everything I've thrown at it.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:24 am
by mjannusch
A crank bolt put on at around 150 ft/lbs shouldn't take 600+ to remove. ???
I mean think about that - that'd be like me (not a small guy) hanging on the end of a 3' long breaker bar and the bolt not even moving.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:36 am
by ChargerX3
[quote=""Chris GTO TT""]Anymore the Harbor Freight stuff is basically the same as what you'd get from Lowes or Home Depot,and would be plenty good for most home use.[/quote]
I like my harbor freight stuff but they are still a ways behind on most tech. Dewalt and Milwaukee are still that much better.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:00 am
by tabasco122
shit gets tighter over time. The axle nuts on my first wrx i ended up breaking a breaker bar. The second one required my 300lb self bouncing on the end of a 24" cheater pipe. You do the math for how much force that required lol. Spec is 162ft-lbs. The stake on it also increases the torque needed to remove.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:19 am
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""ChargerX3""]I like my harbor freight stuff but they are still a ways behind on most tech. Dewalt and Milwaukee are still that much better.[/quote]
What kind of tech is there on air compressors?

Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:23 am
by Chris GTO TT
[quote=""tabasco122""]shit gets tighter over time. The axle nuts on my first wrx i ended up breaking a breaker bar. The second one required my 300lb self bouncing on the end of a 24" cheater pipe. You do the math for how much force that required lol. Spec is 162ft-lbs. The stake on it also increases the torque needed to remove.[/quote]
Yeah I'm not sure I buy it, my impact ripped off bolts with a factory spec of over 200ftlbs. Based on your, uh math, I'd need a 3/4" impact rated for like 2000ftlbs
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:28 am
by tabasco122
What dont you buy? the fact that i had to stand on the end of a 2ft cheaterbar and bounce to remove my axle nut? I assure you it happened.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:56 am
by mjannusch
[quote=""tabasco122""]shit gets tighter over time. The axle nuts on my first wrx i ended up breaking a breaker bar. The second one required my 300lb self bouncing on the end of a 24" cheater pipe. You do the math for how much force that required lol. Spec is 162ft-lbs. The stake on it also increases the torque needed to remove.[/quote]
I guess I've been lucky that all the stuff I've had to do uses castle nuts with cotter pins instead of staked nuts. I think the only staked one I've come across was the shaft end nut on a DSM AWD manual transmission, where it was deformed into a slot on the shaft. Even that wasn't crazy to remove, but the nut wasn't particularly large and if I remember right the staked portion was some sort of copper alloy instead of steel.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:26 am
by Duck Vader
I've never met a bolt or nut that a breaker bar with heat didn't either come loose or snap. Impact wrench would just be to make jobs quicker.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:28 am
by tabasco122
[quote=""mjannusch""]I guess I've been lucky that all the stuff I've had to do uses castle nuts with cotter pins instead of staked nuts. I think the only staked one I've come across was the shaft end nut on a DSM AWD manual transmission, where it was deformed into a slot on the shaft. Even that wasn't crazy to remove, but the nut wasn't particularly large and if I remember right the staked portion was some sort of copper alloy instead of steel.[/quote]
in my case i banged out the staked part before i tried to loosen it. It was just that stuck on.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:31 am
by tabasco122
Another good one is subaru cam gears. Ive stripped that shit out using a breaker bar more times than i can count, even with the proper fitted 10mm hex. Wont do them without an impact now lol.
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:58 am
by DCIV
Someone do the math....I gotta know how much force a 300lb man jumping on a breaker bar puts down.
Coop
Re: Electric impacts
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:37 am
by tabasco122
apparently a ft lb is one pound of force applied 1ft away from the fastener. So since it was 2-2.5ft of pipe, it would be about 600-750ftlbs lol.