[quote=""Jeff V.""]We had fun shopping for it together, we had fun buying it together, and we've been having fun driving it together. That's all that matters.

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I totally drove both my parents around and they loved it. I took it to the grocery store yesterday.
It IS fun to drive. It's no bigger than my parents suburban I drove a bunch in my 20s. It IS slow, if anything that's the most frustrating part. It's comfortable, easy to shift. Great view.
I really can't wait to drive it in the snow. I DO want to take it somewhere and go off-road, cause we can. My father said we should drive it to the mountains CO or AK. The gas will suck, but it would be fun.
This vehicle just says 'Look at me'. It's ridiculous, hilarious, and we never do anything so spontaneous and maybe a bit irresponsible. We're young(ish) and have money. So boo.

Whenever you use forceful and overt verbal persuasion to try to convince others to see things your way, they're probably not listening to what you say, Instead they're looking for every error in you your logic and mistakes in your facts, all the while constructing counterarguments. Worse still, they don't merely believe you're wrong; they need you to be wrong in order to protect the status quo. And since the final judge exists in their own head, you lose every time. - The Influencer
Is the level of bullshit you have to go through to change things in a direction you want, less than than or equal than the level of current bullshit?