Let's try Ford now.

[alienviking]

I concur with that being a good look for the truck.

[aaronatstate]

Those are 5x135 his is 6x135

Gah I saw 135 and went with it!

[ChargerX3]

I do have the 8ft bed.

248.6" total length I believe.

Will be longer once I finally get that bumper put on.

Mine is listed as 244" without rear bumper... so we're basically the same length lol

Looks like our trucks are the same width, but mind is 40" longer. I also have the big two mirrors though and it sits a LOT higher.

Pretty much all trucks since 08ish have been just under 80"

Since when did they start measuring trucks without bumpers. Lol.

[Chris GTO TT]

Since when did they start measuring trucks without bumpers. Lol.

It's actually more recent that they started measuring them with bumpers. Going way way back a rear bumper was usually an option on trucks so their length was determined without the bumper.

[ChargerX3]

"Here sir. Our latest 1987 Ford F150 without bumpers. Isnt it magnificent?" LOL!

[Jeff V.]

What kind of stupid car company would make a bumper optional?

[ChargerX3]

Easy now. Pretty sure they are required on all vehicles for crash testing purposes. All of mine came with bumpers. However I have removed them all to look like that.

[Chris GTO TT]

Depending on the year only front bumpers are required

[Duck Vader]

FWIW, my outback doesn't have a standard rear bumper anymore. Factory hitch requires removal of it. So basically it is just a hitch back there now with a bumper cover over it. The rear beam sits in the garage now. Not sure if they are required?

[aaronatstate]

FWIW, my outback doesn't have a standard rear bumper anymore. Factory hitch requires removal of it. So basically it is just a hitch back there now with a bumper cover over it. The rear beam sits in the garage now. Not sure if they are required?

The beam is what actually provides the function of the bumper. Strange that a factory hitch would require it's removal, unless the hitch now takes over that function.

[Duck Vader]

Talking about different sizes.

My two trucks side by side. 12 F250, 21 F150. Both stock height 4wd.

[Chris GTO TT]

It's crazy how except for height they're pretty similar in dimension

[ChargerX3]

Ones a fatty thought.

[Jeff V.]

I signed up for a 72 hour pass to the Ford service website. I can get Oasis reports and detailed build info in addition to service manual stuff. PM or text me VINs or other requests if you want info.

[Chris GTO TT]

Pm sent but I have no idea what to ask for.

[Duck Vader]

Ya I have no idea what I'd ask for either

[Jeff V.]

The Oasis report is basic build info, warranty coverage, and any open recalls or service campaigns. The build info is kind of like the RPO lists for GM vehicles. Nothing super useful or exciting, but could be handy to have.

[Duck Vader]

Pm sent

[Chris GTO TT]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... tid=dXMIcH

[Jeff V.]

That's cool. I have other things I'd rather spend the money on right now though. I've got a lead on a couple of cheap center consoles. Just need to make up my mind on color.

One is an all black floor shift console. That would look good now, and match anything I might do later as far as the seats or trying to swap to the black and red special edition interior. But I'd need to buy or make the storage bin where the shifter would go. Or I could just convert it to floor shift, which I'm also thinking of doing.

The other one is a gray column shift console. So it's got the bin, and it's the 'correct' color for my interior.

I'm really leaning towards the black one. It helps that it's $50 cheaper.